diff --git a/doc/cross-compiling.txt b/doc/cross-compiling.txt
index 47713410c3b24132c767ec3e6d76959e6f578f43..22b0d9751ac6bb2545fd7059a72e027f59356658 100644
--- a/doc/cross-compiling.txt
+++ b/doc/cross-compiling.txt
@@ -14,3 +14,69 @@ RHL90-XSCALE-CROSS disk image should do the trick:
 The "--host" argument tells configure what CPU/OS we want the code to
 run on and the "--build" argument tells it what CPU/OS we are building
 on.  Both arguments must be given for this to work.
+
+
+XXX ... more junk ... clean up later ... can't talk in detail now ...
+
+
+The magic incantations needed to build the testbed client side for the
+stargates.  I've put most of the results in:
+
+  /proj/testbed/src/
+
+To do it from scratch, you'll need to allocate a node with the
+RHL90-XSCALE-CROSS images.  I went after libelvin and elvind first,
+they needed a quick hack on their configure scripts to ignore some
+tests...
+
+libelvin: (not sure if the without/disable flags are all right...)
+
+  env PATH=/usr/local/arm/3.4.1/bin:${PATH} \
+      CC=arm-linux-gcc CXX=arm-linux-g++ RANLIB=arm-linux-ranlib \
+      ./configure --prefix=/tmp/elvin-install \
+      --without-x --without-xt --without-gtk --disable-http \
+      --disable-cluster --disable-mgmt
+
+!! Note the elvin-install dir for the prefix, we need to use this
+because that is what elvin-config will report, and we don't want it
+talking about the x86 config !!
+
+  env PATH=/usr/local/arm/3.4.1/bin:${PATH} gmake
+
+  env PATH=/usr/local/arm/3.4.1/bin:${PATH} gmake install
+
+
+elvind: (not sure if the without/disable flags are all right...)
+
+  env PATH=/usr/local/arm/3.4.1/bin:${PATH} \
+      CC=arm-linux-gcc CXX=arm-linux-g++ RANLIB=arm-linux-ranlib \
+      ./configure --with-elvin=/tmp/elvin-install/ \
+      --disable-mgmt --disable-cluster
+
+  env PATH=/usr/local/arm/3.4.1/bin:${PATH} gmake
+
+  env PATH=/usr/local/arm/3.4.1/bin:${PATH} gmake install \
+      DESTDIR=/tmp/stargate-install
+
+
+Cross-compiling openssl for arm:
+
+  http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/qt-notes.php#ccSsl
+
+  env PATH=/usr/local/arm/3.4.1/bin:${PATH} gmake install_sw \
+      INSTALL_PREFIX=/tmp/stargate-install
+
+
+Finally, build the testbed tree:
+
+  env ELVIN_CONFIG=/tmp/elvin-install/bin/elvin-config \
+      LDFLAGS=-L/tmp/stargate-install/usr/local/lib \
+      CPPFLAGS=-I/tmp/stargate-install/usr/local/include \
+      ../testbed/configure --host=arm-linux --build=i686-linux \
+      --with-brainstem=/proj/testbed/src/brainstem
+
+!! Add LDFLAGS and CPPFLAGS to pickup openssl !!
+
+  gmake client
+
+  gmake client-install DESTDIR=/tmp/stargate-install